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| there is nothing wrong with american animation... just it tends to be very lame. (put that in your pipe and smoke it andro!) |
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 Wed Nov 26, 2003 9:47 pm |
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Way to smack back with indifference.
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| Wed Nov 26, 2003 10:33 pm |
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| Nobuyuki wrote: |
Maybe we shouldn't provoke him, he is a good guy after all.
And this is all in fun.
So everybody join in:
WE'RE NOT GONNA PROTEST!!
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Oh, going all PCU on his ass, eh? Way to be original. Way to be an individual Nobu!
Crowd: We're all individuals!
Man: ...I'm not.
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| Wed Nov 26, 2003 11:55 pm |
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| TylerL wrote: |
| Way to smack back with indifference. |
Thank you. Thank you.
I really do try! |
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| Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:13 am |
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| counterparadox wrote: |
Oh, going all PCU on his ass, eh? Way to be original. Way to be an individual Nobu!
Crowd: We're all individuals!
Man: ...I'm not. |
pwn3d. I admit it.
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| Thu Nov 27, 2003 12:40 am |
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I am not a number I am a free man!
No theres nothing wrong with american animation. Since there really hasnt been any true american animation since what the 60s? Thats if you exclude disney. Now flip that and add Pixar and American animation can be quite good. Except for the fact that, like IT jobs, most of the actual animation itself is done overseas. So if its made in Korea, say like Batman Beyond The Movie, I don't consider it american. Whens the last time you were in a Kia and thought "Hey this is a great american car?". Even though it was sold, packaged, prepped and inspected in the US?
Be seeing you
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| Thu Nov 27, 2003 8:26 am |
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| Nobuyuki wrote: |
| counterparadox wrote: |
Oh, going all PCU on his ass, eh? Way to be original. Way to be an individual Nobu!
Crowd: We're all individuals!
Man: ...I'm not. |
pwn3d. I admit it. |
^_^
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| Thu Nov 27, 2003 7:36 pm |
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| gfpaperboy22 wrote: |
Taco
Burrito
Whats comin outta your speedo?!?! |
It's stinky, Yea, Yea! It's stinky.
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| Thu Nov 27, 2003 10:08 pm |
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| Fodder wrote: |
| most of the actual animation itself is done overseas. So if its made in Korea, say like Batman Beyond The Movie, I don't consider it american. |
Batman Beyond (if you're talking return of the joker) was designed, written, keyed (about 90% of it), scored, composited, and almost everything else in america. About 2 -3 scenes were done soley in japan (Big O's studio-- dunno the name of it) How about the Simpsons? Would you consider that Korean? It's alot more Korean than BB was.
All that korea gets from american studios is inbetweening work. That's IT. Pretty much no studio trusts korea to really do more than that. The work the koreans do have no creativity, none what so ever. They are assembly lines. Animation Assembly lines-- they are programmed and told what to do and how to do it. They can not deviate or they don't get work. On top of all that many US animators move to korea to work on those projects too (one of my teachers did) so not even all that work goes to koreans.
As for american animation being lame. Versus what? The best Japan has to offer? (ie what gets brought over) Well fucking shit, of course it will seem like that. You are able to see all the shitty series from America because you god damn live here. Do you really believe that Japan doesn't have their own giant mounds of shit? Of course they do, but THEY STAY OVER THERE. |
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| Mon Dec 01, 2003 4:57 pm |
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I think some of their nasty stuff does make its way across to.
And the reason i made that comment about Return of the Joker was because of the DVD's commentary. Which i swear says a lot about the work done overseas on the movie. I'll have to go back and relisten to it. Its a good DVD commentary btw. Gives you a lot of insight into the series and why it was the way it was. |
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| Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:00 pm |
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I've listened to it too. It really is a great commentary session. Anyway, yeah, the team outside of america that did the most work was the japanese studio they had worked with before on the Batman (not beyond) series. Korea had always been nothing more than inbetweening.
You get the point? Just because the non creative labor part is done outside the US doesn't make the series less american, it jsut makes it cheaper to produce. |
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| Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:14 pm |
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| No i got the points. To me american animation was the things i grew up with by Hanna Barbara and Looney Toons. |
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| Mon Dec 01, 2003 5:34 pm |
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"My god-American Animation is PEOPLE!"
"AHHHHHHHHHHHHH!"
Take a guess at what that's a joke of...
Hint: NRA
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| Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:03 pm |
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The Ten Soylent Commandments vs. the Green Party
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| Tue Dec 02, 2003 3:43 pm |
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DAMN!
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