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There has been a lot of political controversy recently. Clarke's book on the terroism threats, Condoliza Rice's testemony on said threats and such, no Osama to be found, still no WMDs, environmental issues, issues with the national Budget and growing dept, medicare, and the list goes on and one.
However, there is one issue that no one, really, could have predicted. That would be the newly heated issue of Civil Unions. That would be a legal joining of a man and a man, or of a woman and a woman. The Church hates it, Schwarztenagger hates it, Bush almost hates it . . . in short, it's something that has caused a lot of protests and anger and controversy in a very short amount of time.
So, I ask you. What are you thoughts? _________________ anime is teh s uck
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Mon Apr 12, 2004 10:57 pm
SlimJim
Joined: Nov 09, 2002
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I can't say I have much on this, I'd have to research it more. I WILL however say that Homosexuality in general is against my religion, along with "furries" and bestiality. It's your choice however, and if you wanna get married to the same sex by all means. However, leave us in peace and don't rant about how right you are. I say we move them all to montana(j/k about montana) _________________ *Floats by on a cloud*
Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:00 pm
primalbliss
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
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Very Simple, Why do people form union's? One person finds another with a common bond and one becomes two. This thought comes to mind, one thought, one army. I think unions are a way for the little person to be heard because there are so many of them. I am not part of a union, or have ever been. I like them because I am always for the underdog, and when you have big wigs against you I am all for exposing their bald plates.
As for the joining of the same sexes I have this to say and I will stick to it until the end. You only have one life to live and that's your own. Who are you to tell another how to live THEIR life when you should be worrying about yours? I can give advice and opinions, but what two men or two women want to do between them is their business and theirs alone. I am all for same sex marriages, I guess this would be a good time to mention I am atheist. And let's stay off religion; I get enough of those debates. I only mentioned it to state my point further.
I grew up in Ft. Lauderdale, if you look at the ratings now it is #2 behind San Fran for most gay people. I don't practice their way of life, but who am I to condemn them? I have gay friends; they are people too and have the same problems if not more. I think they get enough shit; the government should give them at least this one break. It all boils down to oppression. If people in power don't like what you say or your actions they will try to stifle it, Civil Unions are a way for those lower people to fight back.
Mon Apr 12, 2004 11:37 pm
TylerL
Joined: Oct 10, 2002
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Easy Solution:
Same-Sex Common-Law Marriages.
All the legal stuff with no messy church service. _________________ My old sig was too long.
Tue Apr 13, 2004 12:05 am
Nobuyuki
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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TylerL wrote:
Easy Solution:
Same-Sex Common-Law Marriages.
All the legal stuff with no messy church service.
seconded. _________________ "When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."- C.S. Lewis
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Tue Apr 13, 2004 1:08 am
primalbliss
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
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A third vote here.
Tue Apr 13, 2004 10:43 am
Chibi_Zero
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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I really have no problem with how a person lives their life. With that said I'll agree with Tyler _________________ "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." - Calvin
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Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:32 pm
JJc14
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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i'm rather ignorant on the topic, since gay marriage will have absolutely no impact on the way i live my life, so i haven't really cared either way...
that said, i'm somewhat against banning it outright from a federal level...i'm not seeing it having a major impact to the economic/social/whatever well-being of the populace, so shouldn't it be up to the individual states to decide what should be done?
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Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:11 pm
primalbliss
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
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JJc14, how right you are. It should be up to the states to decide. The thing is it goes against most peoples morals that have the power to ban it. They say church and state/politics are seperate, but this issue clearly exploits that lie.
I don't think Bush will get re-elected because of this issue.
Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:47 pm
Chibi_Zero
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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Quote:
i'm rather ignorant on the topic, since gay marriage will have absolutely no impact on the way i live my life, so i haven't really cared either way..
It's the same here...
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I don't think Bush will get re-elected because of this issue.
I doubt this would be the only thing that kept Bush from getting re-elected. _________________ "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." - Calvin
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Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:30 pm
primalbliss
Joined: Feb 23, 2004
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I doubt this would be the only thing that kept Bush from getting re-elected.
Agreed, but he still has a lot of support. I have no idea why but it's still true.
Ya know I haven't heard from Counter yet, where is your response?
Tue Apr 13, 2004 5:51 pm
counterparadox
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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SlimJim wrote:
I can't say I have much on this, I'd have to research it more. I WILL however say that Homosexuality in general is against my religion [snip]
No, it's not. No no no no no no no no no. Nono, nonono, nono nonono NO.
When's the last time you ate shellfish? Of any sort. Are you morally against it? No? Because in the SAME BOOK of the Old Testament that it mentions homosexuality, it speaks out against eating shellfish (I'm serious.). Do you eat kosher? Do you live by the laws set out by Moses? Basically, do you live your life as a Jew?
You don't?
Then how can you say your religion is against homosexuality.
YOU CAN"T, that's how.
Shut up and listen before you get pissed at me.
At the time of Jesus, the Jews had made laws upon laws upon laws and sub laws and sub laws for the sub laws. Jesus refined the laws. He made things simpler, and redirected people in the right direction, giving the one golden rule that is the core of our religion "Do onto others as they should do onto you". He shifted focus away form the letter of the law, and instead to loving people.
And he never spoke out about homosexuality. EVER. And Christians are supposed to take his word above all else, no?
ALSO, the whole purpose of a religion is to give people a sense of morality and a community. If a religion is condescending of anyone, it isn't a religion.
An action is a sin because it is wrong. An action is not wrong because it is a sin. Meaning, things are sins because they are objectively morally wrong.
If you can explain to me RIGHT NOW, right this moment, how being gay is a sin, wihout using the bible as a shield or simply saying the idea of it skeaves you out, then you have a right to speak up. But from what I've seen, it isn't possible.
I am for civil unions. I'm not for gay marriages. Why? Because a civil union grants all (ALL. PERIOD. Only difference is the name. I HAVE looked into this. Doing a project on it for school and was told this by a judge.) rights that a marriage does. And they should have the same rights. I think it should be harder to get married or a civil union for the sole reason that there's a 50% divorce rate and I think tha'ts appalling.
I was really hoping there would be someone here against it, but I didn't think there would be. It seems that for the most part, young people are for civil unions and old old people are against. *Shrug.* _________________ anime is teh s uck
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Tue Apr 13, 2004 7:13 pm
dougisfunny
Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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we do watch anime... that is morally wrong in the old people's opinion...
what do you expect from a bunch of heretics CP?
oh and on the subject of Bush getting reelcted...
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Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:19 pm
Chibi_Zero
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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We all do many things we should not do (>_>) _________________ "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." - Calvin
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Tue Apr 13, 2004 9:22 pm
SlimJim
Joined: Nov 09, 2002
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my bad CP, i forgot about that part _________________ *Floats by on a cloud*
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