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Several rumours of SEGA re-entering the hardware market have been flying around the less well lit parts of the internet recently, and as such we've felt no need to report them. Until now.
It all started with speculation surrounding Sammy's arcade platform 'Atomiswave'. Some thought that Sammy could port this new system to a home console and brand it with their child company's well known SEGA logo.
SEGA threw some nitroglycerin into the mix last week with a press release announcing their E3 offerings - "Learn about SEGA's 2004 line-up and hear BIG news you'd NEVER guess". Some PR person getting overexcited (as they often do - it's their job), probably. The tasty part of this rumour is still to come, however.
A poster to slick electronics weblog Gizmodo, was sent a tip from a reader regarding an encounter with a games industry veteran -
It may be pure coincidence but I thought I'd let you know something I heard the other night. I was at dinner with a woman who has worked as a headhunter in the video game industry for 7 years; "Since before there were women in the industry", she says. It was the first time I'd been around a woman with more video game history/knowledge than myself and it was deeply emasculating. More than a little out of my element not being the alpha male in an electronics discussion, I stooped to the tried and true favorite of drowning her in booze to pump up my self esteem. She mentioned after several glasses of wine that she was going to E3. Naturally, acting like the well educated, adult male that I am, I begged and pleaded with her to let me tag along as her assistant making promises to rub her feet at night and let her call me 'Scoop'. She told me in no uncertain terms that there was no way she would take me.
I had been a little overserved myself so instead of throwing wine in her face like I do with most women who turn down my extravagant requests I entered into an argument about the coming Playstation 3 and Xbox 2 announcements. At this point she mentioned to me how new console announcements are pass‚ since there were four big console makers and they were always announcing something new. Sensing a small victory I pounced, "there are only 3 console makers!" Like a mother scolding her son she replied, "no, there's Sony, Nintendo, Sega, and Microsoft." "Sega?", I questioned, "but they're out of the console business?" She stopped what she was saying and looked at me, then mumbled something about how I should forget what she said. Relishing my perceived victory over her supposed video game industry knowledge I let the Sega remark slip thinking it was brought on by the liquor. After seeing your post about a possible Sega announcement I figured I'd drop you a line. I agree with your opinion that a Sega announcement is unlikely, but seeing your post and hearing this woman's drunken remarks is a little interesting.
Make of it what you will. The official line from SEGA is predictable:
"SEGA cannot comment on rumors relating to its exclusive press event on day one of E3," a PR spokesperson read from a script. "SEGA remains excited about its powerful lineup of yet-to-be announced titles." More on this soon.
Personaly I'm all for it. I grew up on Sega and my god I'll get old with Sega if I can have my way.
Mon May 03, 2004 7:23 pm
Daikun
Joined: Nov 02, 2002
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It'll be kinda tricky, especially now that Nintendo execs are in the upper management offices.
Mon May 03, 2004 10:43 pm
Andromaton
Joined: Nov 17, 2003
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ah but sammy is the one in charge not sega, there are few enough nintendo execs where they don't really matter if the rest of sammy says jump.
I'd be thrilled even if sega went with a hand held unit, as long as they made something.
Mon May 03, 2004 11:40 pm
WhtHawk
Joined: Jan 30, 2003
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Sega's going to have to watch it's timing when it enters the market if it's going to reenter the console business. They may not be able to recover from another Dream Cast. _________________ To do two things at once is to do neither. —Publilius Syrus, Roman slave, first century B.C.
Tue May 04, 2004 12:02 am
Daikun
Joined: Nov 02, 2002
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I'm with Wht here. If Sega doesn't produce another great system, they'll just be following in Atari's footsteps.
Tue May 04, 2004 12:12 am
Andromaton
Joined: Nov 17, 2003
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see now, the problem with dreamcast wasn't that it was a bad system, maybe not even timing (just look at GC and Xbox), it was the fact that they got a new prez that was antisystem. If Nintendo doesn't play the next system carefully it to will be going the route of software only (minus gameboy).
Tue May 04, 2004 3:44 am
JJc14
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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i'd love to see sega get back into the console market, as they always seemed to have some of the most innovative ideas (the sega channel, "lock-on" technology, vmu, etc.) and it's still hard for an older guy like me to accept that there's no longer a sega system in the console race...
hopefully if this does come to fruition, there's enough of the sega staff remaining to remember their mistakes in the past... _________________ "Life's a journey, not a destination..." -Aerosmith ('Amazing')
Current RPG(s): (None)
Tue May 04, 2004 8:33 am
Zechs
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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In my opinion there are only Two in the console market right now. Sony and Microsoft. Nintendo has failed me with yet another overhyped system with huge lack of content. The SNES had more games than both the N64 and the have Gamecube combined. Now if we break it down farther we have the Xbox controlling the online console market while the Playstation controls the offline market with it's large collection of RPGs. Nintendo completely dominates the handheld markets, the only reason they havn't crashed and burned as of yet. Now the question is where is Sega going to fit in this market. They've got a couple of great sports liscenses and of course their Sonic, Virtual Fighter, and Ninja Gaiden series. I wonder if they'll have to cut off all their 3rd party developer deals, because no one wants to buy another system that is just a collection of games they can get on other systems _________________ Bang.
Tue May 04, 2004 3:41 pm
John_Bono_Smithy_Satchmo
Joined: Nov 13, 2002
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Zechs, more games doesn't equal more better. The reason the SNES had so many games anyway was because it ran almost unopposed in the console market for 3 years. The N64 did blow big time. How many good games were there for that? I can only think of 5 off the top of my head (Smash Bros, OoT, Majoura's Mask, Conker's BFD, and F-Zero X). Anyhows, I have as many Cube games (all of them fantastic, except for Starfox Adventures and Luigi's Mansion--both of which I didn't buy or ask for) than I have from the SNESs 7 year run.
As for Sega 're-entering' the market, last I checked, they had a console of this generation (the first one, if memory serves me correct). So wouldn't that mean that they never really left, then? _________________ This space left intentionally blank.
Tue May 04, 2004 4:17 pm
Zer0
Joined: Mar 25, 2003
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Wait, did someone just say the N64 blew? I'll ignore that. ANyways, I would love to see SEGA back in the console market as well. And the fact of the Dreamcast bombing is the fault of everyone's, "I'll wait to see if it does good before I buy it" attitude. It was a nice little system, just not enough games to back it. And people afraid of buying it, because it may (which it did) bomb, and no games would be available for it, hurt it tremendously.
Back to the main point....Yes.....GIVE ME SEGA
Tue May 04, 2004 7:04 pm
Andromaton
Joined: Nov 17, 2003
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John_Bono_Smithy_Satchmo wrote:
Zechs, more games doesn't equal more better. The reason the SNES had so many games anyway was because it ran almost unopposed in the console market for 3 years. The N64 did blow big time. How many good games were there for that? I can only think of 5 off the top of my head (Smash Bros, OoT, Majoura's Mask, Conker's BFD, and F-Zero X). Anyhows, I have as many Cube games (all of them fantastic, except for Starfox Adventures and Luigi's Mansion--both of which I didn't buy or ask for) than I have from the SNESs 7 year run.
As for Sega 're-entering' the market, last I checked, they had a console of this generation (the first one, if memory serves me correct). So wouldn't that mean that they never really left, then?
I think what Zechs meant was that the GC lacked original games, all of its big hits were just rehashes (although well done rehashes) of classic Nintendo properties. There just was NO third party support when it came to quality games. Segas contribution to the GC trully is laughable, the only good ones they released for were nothing more than Dreamcast ports. I'm not saying Microsoft was in much better of a position, but they were the newcomer, they had to prove themselves and shit, they have much stronger 3rd party support than Nintendo does for sure.
An enjoyable game once every 6 months to a year is unacceptable and that is just the bottom line.
Oh Zechs, Ninja Gaiden is Tecmo. I think what you meant to say was Shinobi.
Tue May 04, 2004 7:33 pm
Zechs
Joined: Nov 07, 2002
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I actually was just going to correct that, but thanks.
And Spook that's exactly what I mean. Nearly every Nintendo game released for the GC has been awesome, but a console can not survive on one good game every 3-6 months. I walk into the Gamecube aisle in blockbuster(which is more like just two racks) and I rarely, if ever, see a game that grabs my eye anymore. All of the supposed "amazing features" such as online support, and GB hookups have been poorly executed and unsuccesful.
It seems like the GC exists now with very occasional ground-breakers in a sea of nothing but ports and movie liscense games. _________________ Bang.
Tue May 04, 2004 8:26 pm
dougisfunny
Joined: Oct 29, 2002
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nintendo should make some games that full out require the GBA connection, and let the game go on the road _________________ The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
Wed May 05, 2004 1:07 pm
Andromaton
Joined: Nov 17, 2003
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the connectivity thing was an interesting concept but a dumb idea and an even worse execution.
Wed May 05, 2004 3:01 pm
SlimJim
Joined: Nov 09, 2002
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If you'll remember, they did connectivity with the N64 as well.
Sega has lost so much of what I praised it for. All it's consoles were my favorites, sure, but they are pile-driving all their good licenses into the ground right now. Sonic Heroes BLEW like none other(well, it's okay, but not great by any standards) and PSO went to...cards?
Gamecube has lost this race indeed. Nintendo is hanging by a thread in the console market, and it just takes one or two more late-overhyped-overeyecandied game to break this camels back. Nintendo i salute the for mario, zelda, and other classics but if you don't shape up you're on the chopping block.
Microsoft has endured an enourmous ammount of bad press and came out running. Xbox live is teh leading console online service currently and I won't be suprised if it stays that way. They are pumping out great games like Pandora Tommorow and Ninja Gaiden and are coming out with Mechassault 2(which from what I've seen is groundbreaking for the mechawarrior lineup). Halo 2 is WAAAAY overhyped. It will be a rehash, an excellent rehash at best. Microsoft is going for the moon with limited fuel, so they will not likely be coming back. Godspeed.
PS3 I have no comment for seing as I have heard nothing about it in terms of info. PS2 is the offline king as was said before, and i see it staying that way for a good while.
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