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That's also why Final Fantasy PS1 games took up to 4 discs, when they would probably only need 2 without the FMV clips.
Wed Sep 07, 2005 3:55 pm
Vegito1471
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Then why do they look so much better on the PS2? If you want to compare cg movies just compare advent children to toy story 2. Isnt it weird how I always start these debates? _________________ Anime Conquers all.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 6:38 pm
Chibi_Zero
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they aren't the best to compare. They are going for 2 different styles. _________________ "I'm just very selective about the reality I choose to accept." - Calvin
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:13 pm
Vegito1471
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what styles are those? _________________ Anime Conquers all.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 7:48 pm
Nobuyuki
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Hyper-realistic vs. Creatively entertaining _________________ "When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."- C.S. Lewis
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 9:06 pm
counterparadox
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When comparing quality, one must look at the STYLE that the creators are going for. I will argue to the death that South Park has good animation. Because they are going for a certain STYLE and they ACHIEVE IT SUPERBLY and hte style FITS THE CONTENT of the show.
Comparing Toy Story and Advent Children is like comparing an H3 Hummer to a '68 Corvette Stingray: You may want them both, but not at all for the same reasons.
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Wed Sep 07, 2005 11:20 pm
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Vegito1471 wrote:
Then why do they look so much better on the PS2? If you want to compare cg movies just compare advent children to toy story 2. Isnt it weird how I always start these debates?
CP's made the point about comparing two completely different styles. If you wanted to compare FFX vs say, Warcraft III, that would be a much better matchup.
...But as to your question of WHY "they" look so much better on the PS2- Compare FFX to FFVIII (haven't seen anything from IX ), and you'll see that in the time between the games, the FMV scenes got better. Look at Pixar's movies over the years. They also look different than they did when Toy Story came out. Same with Blizzard's FMV sequences. Both skill and technology have improved since each company started. Thus, what you saw on the PS2 was simply an advancement in technology over the previous version. It's a simple concept.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 1:13 am
Vegito1471
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So your saying the graphics of the Systems have absolutely NOTHING to do with fmv sequences. Hard to believe. _________________ Anime Conquers all.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:31 pm
Chibi_Zero
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Vegito1471 wrote:
So your saying the graphics of the Systems have absolutely NOTHING to do with fmv sequences. Hard to believe.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 6:39 pm
counterparadox
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Vegito1471 wrote:
If you want to compare cg movies just compare advent children to toy story 2.
THAT is what we are discussing. We never said anything about how the system affects the FMV. _________________ anime is teh s uck
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 7:07 pm
Vegito1471
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I was responding to Admiralgreer's post that said that PS2 fmvs look so much better than PS1 ones because technology has improved in between those times. I dont think that fmvs are just videos on a disk, I think that they use the actual system to make them. If they were just videos on a disk then why dont all fmvs on games look like toy story 2 or advent children.
As for comparing advent children to toy story 2, I was trying to compare the difference in years in between them to see what everyone else thought. Even though advent children is expected to be released in November sometime. Who here thinks that FF7 is the best Final Fantasy? _________________ Anime Conquers all.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:09 pm
Nobuyuki
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Vegito1471 wrote:
I was responding to Admiralgreer's post that said that PS2 fmvs look so much better than PS1 ones because technology has improved in between those times.
That's true. Moore's Law applies fully in this situation.
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I dont think that fmvs are just videos on a disk, I think that they use the actual system to make them.
That's false. It's just an MPEG-2 video file being accessed from the DVD and played back by the system.
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If they were just videos on a disk then why dont all fmvs on games look like toy story 2 or advent children.
Artistic license + time and money put into creation and development, the same as any movie.
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As for comparing advent children to toy story 2, I was trying to compare the difference in years in between them to see what everyone else thought.
I think I could stand to watch TS2 for two hours, but not AC. _________________ "When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."- C.S. Lewis
"Superman can't be emo. He can't cut himself."-CP
Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:19 pm
Vegito1471
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Why wouldnt you be able to? _________________ Anime Conquers all.
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Thu Sep 08, 2005 8:36 pm
Nobuyuki
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To keep it short, Advent Children and the like make my mental carriage drive off the cliff and plunge into the Uncanny Valley, while Toy Story and their ilk are still abtract enough to keep me on the road. _________________ "When I became a man, I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up."- C.S. Lewis
"Superman can't be emo. He can't cut himself."-CP
Fri Sep 09, 2005 7:45 am
dougisfunny
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but uncanny is good right?
or are you having an identity crisis? _________________ The problem with America is stupidity. I'm not saying there should be a capital punishment for stupidity, but why don't we just take the safety labels off of everything and let the problem solve itself?
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