Rants of a Japanofile

Vegito1471 · **Vegito1471**

The Game- Dreams
[Verse 1]

I woke up out dat coma, 2000 and 1
Bout the same time Dre dropped 2000 and 1
Three years later the album is done
Aftermath presents: Nigga Witta Attitude Volume 1
Rap critics politicin
Wanna know the outcome!
Ready to die, Reasonable Doubt and Doggystyle in one
I feel like Pac, after the Snoop Dogg trial was done
Dre behind the G-Series and All Eyez On Me
I watched the death of a dynasty!
So I told Vibe Magazine
Workin' with Dr.Dre was a "DREAM!"
I had visions of makin' a classic
Then my wall turned black,like I was starin outa Stevie Wonders glasses
It's kinda hard to imagine,like Kanye West
Comin back from a fatal accident, to beat makin' and rappin'
But, we da future
Whitney Houston told me that, it's gon take mo' than a bullet in a heart to hold me back

[Hook]
Blushin' in this 40 ounce
Lettin the ink from my pen bleed
Cuz Marthin Luther King had a "DREAM"
Aaliyah had a "DREAM"
Left Eye had a "DREAM"
So I reached out to Kanye and "brough you all my dreeam"
How is this for your 'lyrics' LLG. How many genres of music other than rap are there for the other 80% of the US to listen to? Download this song and try listening to the whole thing see if you like it. As for me lookin stupid, I might be stupid but not a prideless,retarded, piece of shit like you LLG. What do you mean my statements are biased because I come from a black/latino community.
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LLG · **LLG**

It's like asking someone leaving Yankee Staduim if they like baseball. That's what I mean by biased. And no, before you make ANOTHER false accusation, I do not believe all Black and Latino people like rap. As for the lyrics, that is just one song. the number offensive lyrics out-numbers the non-offensive lyrics. The reason I was upset is because you had earlier claimed that rap did not have racism. That is not true. And even though I presented older examples of offensive rap, I can very easily find modern rap that is just as offensive and racist if not more.

As for the other 80%:

Blues
Jazz
R&B
Rock
Classic Rock
Punk rock
Metal
Heavy Metal
Pop
Techno
Industrial
Celtic
Classical
Opera
Songs from Musicals
Country
Gossple
Ect.

And I'll bet people who listen to rap ALSO listen to alot of these other genres as well.

As for me being a "prideless, retarded, piece of shit," perhaps you should invest in a dictionary and look up the meaning of biased before you get your feathers in a ruffle. Oh, and while you're at it, you may want to get a thesuarus and grammer dictionary. And stop making liable statements about me. They have no foundation, are defaming, and are unnessecary and uncalled for. If you want to actually make a coherant argument, get the facts first, and in order. Thus far I have presented far more evidence than you have, and mine is stronger. You back your claims with calling people racist for disagreeing with you. You call people racist far too much. You know what the meaning of racism is? It is to discriminate against another simply because of the color of their skin, their ethnic background, or social status. I have not ONCE made a racist statement- merely disagreed with you and you have persisted in calling me a racist. Take a look in the Mirror, Vegito- YOU'RE the one whose racist- and you don't even know what I look like or who I am.
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Vegito1471 · **Vegito1471**

1)Learn how to spell.
2)Find the exact moment where I say LLG, you are racist.
3)Let me see that modern example of racist lyrics.
4)You did not give more evidence than me.
5)Some white people are racist(NOT SAYING ANYONE HERE IS).
6)How is this for more lyrics:
Kanye West-Jesus Walks
Yo, We at war
We at war with terrorism, racism, and most of all we at war with ourselves
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me) with me with me with me [fades]

You know what the Midwest is?
Young & Restless
Where restless Niggaz might snatch your necklace
And next these Niggaz might jack your Lexus
Somebody tell these Niggaz who Kanye West is
I walk through the valley of the shadow of death is
Top floor the view alone will leave you breathless Uhhhh!
Try to catch it Uhhhh! It's kinda hard hard
Getting choked by the detectives yeah yeah now check the method
They be asking us questions, harass and arrest us
Saying "we eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast"
Huh? Yall eat pieces of shit? What's the basis?
We ain't going nowhere but got suits and cases
A trunk full of coke rental car from Avis
My momma used to say only Jesus can save us
Well momma I know I act a fool
But I'll be gone til November I got packs to move I Hope

[Hook x2]
(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the Devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks with me)
The only thing that that I pray is that me feet don't fail me now
(Jesus Walks)
And I don't think there is nothing I can do now to right my wrongs
(Jesus Walks with me)
I want to talk to God but I'm afraid because we ain't spoke in so long

To the hustlas, killers, murderers, drug dealers even the strippers
(jesus walks with them)
To the victims of Welfare for we living in hell here hell yeah
(jesus walks with them)
Now hear ye hear ye want to see Thee more clearly
I know he hear me when my feet get weary
Cuz we're the almost nearly extinct
We rappers are role models we rap we don't think
I ain't here to argue about his facial features
Or here to convert atheists into believers
I'm just trying to say the way school need teachers
The way Kathie Lee needed Regis that's the way yall need Jesus
So here go my single dog radio needs this
They say you can rap about anything except for Jesus
That means guns, sex, lies, video tapes
But if I talk about God my record won't get played Huh?
Well let this take away from my spins
Which will probably take away from my ends
Then I hope this take away from my sins
And bring the day that I'm dreaming about
Next time I'm in the club everybody screaming out

(Jesus Walks)
God show me the way because the devil trying to break me down
(Jesus Walks)
The only thing that that I pray is that me feet don't fail me now
Rap is not the only music I listen to but it is the main thing I listen to. You dont know what I look like or who I am.
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LLG · **LLG**

counterparadox · **counterparadox**

Rap Lyrics are racist. Not all, no. But lots. And no against white people. I'm sorry if you disagree, but any time that a black person says "Nigga" or its derivatives, it's racist. The whole "They can say it but we can't" is shit. No one should say it if it's that offensive.

There is good and bad everything. I don't know anything by the Game. I know of him, and think he has a dumb name, but I don't know any of his music. So I can't comment on him. But all I have to do is point out "Right Thur" as an example of SHIT ON A STICK.

But that goes back to the fact that the radio sucks.

There's a ton of good underground rap.

There's also some good old school rap.

There's also shitty, shitty rock on the radio. There's also SO MUCH good rock, or all different genres. I know more about rock than I do about rap merely because I generally like it more.

The thing is, you all need to understand, no matter what you listen to, or watch, it needs to be viewed both objectively, and subjectively. For example, I like Blink 182. That's subjective. It's catchy. Objectively speaking, a lot of their songs sound alike, and it really isn't that intricate or special. It's pop punk. It makes the little tweenage girls feel like they're "punks" and "hardcore".

So if you like rap, you need to be able to view it both as individual parts, and as a whole. There is shiity rap, there is racist rap (new and old), there is lack of ingenuity.

But you also need to look and see that there IS great rap, there IS rap about topics that are serious and should be granted an ear to, and there is ingenuity.

You just need to be able to distinguish and be willing to separate both your objective and sujective selves.

And be away that this is the internet. Insults mean nothing, and no one is going to change their mind based off of what you say.
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Vegito1471 · **Vegito1471**

Alright, I agree with CP but LLG has it all wrong, We call each other nigga because its the other "dude". When a white guy like Eminem says it no one has a problem with it but if he said NIGGER, the old and wrong way to say then we might have an epidemic. At my school I hear and say that like 100 times in 2 days. We have to explain this to our teachers alot. No white person will ever understand. After those past white people in the past did so much to blacks, now some of them try to be like us, I hate it. I need a few more of my people to join this forum.
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Zechs · **Zechs**

Um, just like with anything the radio caters to the lowest common denom and it's the same with any music genre.

Good Rap does exist, Kanye West is an awesome artist his lyrics and music are great there's no denying that, Black Eye Peas are the same. Beastie Boys, DMC, LLCoolJ and all the early rap was inventive and fun. It all depends on your individual tastes. The difference between them and the rap that a lot of people hear are that they incorporate music throughout their songs, it's not just 2mins of talking with a 30second hook. That is what I don't enjoy out of personal taste. Rap is poetry, I'm not a fan of poetry so I'm not a fan of Rap especially poetry I can't relate to growing up in a white suburban community. Has nothing to do with race or lyric content or whatever.

Bashing people for their musical tastes is not what this thread is about, infact it's about the ignorance of shunning music because of preconcieved notions. Please don't exemplify what I was trying to condemn
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KingSpanky · **KingSpanky**

I'd just like to add this to the debate: those who resort to name calling or insults tend to be hidding the fact that they know they are wrong.

Also

Nobuyuki · **Nobuyuki**

AdmiralGreer · **AdmiralGreer**

counterparadox · **counterparadox**

KingSpanky · **KingSpanky**

D-boy · **D-boy**

It might be a good idea to close this thread, I believe the debate is over.

counterparadox · **counterparadox**

I shall do nothing of the sort! This is the best discussion we've had in months! We haven't had something this good since Nightweaver and JohnnyPsycho were here! Why would I do such a thing as ending such a glorious discourse?
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