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From today's Guide (the Guardian 19th February 2005):

On The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen ~ "When will they learn? Hollywood nearly always stuffs up comic book adaptations by tampering with the important stuff. You feel they'd have made the same amount of money, probably more, if they'd just left things be. The Alan Moore comic is a brilliant 'what if?' tale mixing literary characters with situations plucked from history and writers such as H.G.Wells. The sad, fading adventurer Allan Quatermain from the books is unrecognisible in Sean Connery's punchy hero. Worse yet, believing Americans wouldn't have heard of Jekyll/Hyde, Captain Nemo etc., they added Tom Sawyer. What's he going to do? paint a fence? It looks fantastic though, so if you like seeing money squandered, this is for you"

I just found this quite amusing for some reason. *chuckles* paint a fence...classic...

It IS a nice looking film though...I would have preferred no Tom Sawyer and Jekyll and Hyde back though...Does the average US citizen really not know him?...Captain Nemo I can understand though...(I don't know him)
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I would think mst people know Dr Jeklly and Mr Hyde, or at least the idea as for nemo, didn't he captain the Nautilis?

edit: Huh...after searching, I was right about his captainship. I haven't read that particular Jules Verne novel though, as I found his Journey to the Center of the Earth rather long winded since I read the unabridged.
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Who HASN'T heard of Captain Nemo? From 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea... Geeze... What's wrong with the world?
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I'm betting there are American kids who don't know who Tom Sawyer is.
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i'd believe it
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I stopped really reading books since my 10th grade English class. It turned out that I can't write essays about literature. I would get the same score on an essay whether I actually read the book or used Cliff's notes (or the equivalent on the internet). Take that, Maya Angelou.

My advice, if you want your kids to read, don't make them write god-forsaken essays.

(Cue "The more you know" music and graphic.)
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heh, don't make them read unabridged classics which were written by authors who got paid by the word, not by the sales the book got.

Robinson Crusoe sucked unabridged.
Swiss Family Robinson wasn't so hot.

That was a bad time to be an author.

Unless your name was Oxford and you wrote a dictionary.

(I'm not actually stupid enough to think that is in fact true)
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I heard that a lot of books in "the old days" were published in newspapers and magazines as weekly/monthly serials (one chapter per week/month).
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True, which is why a lot of those books had every chapter ending in a cliffhanger. And they were paid by the word too, which isn't good for the reader.
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Let me get this out of the way...
dillpops wrote:
It IS a nice looking film though...I would have preferred no Tom Sawyer and Jekyll and Hyde back though

But Jekyll/Hyde were in the movie. Dorian Grey and Tom Sawyer weren't in the original comic, but were added in by the producers.

Back on the current subject- I never noticed wordiness as a flaw in the books mentioned when I first read them. Of course, I wasn't being forced to read them at the time; it was strictly for entertainment purposes. *shrug*
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I read none of those books except for pleasure, I was a voracious reader in my youth, and I found the story to be good. Just the presentation was brought down by the words.

For any of you out there, try reading the bible, about the second or third book in when they start talking about the little details of who begat who or how the tent was made, don't you feel like it was a little unecesary?
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All I know about the bible is that the Garden of Eden and Caine and Able parts are actually allegories for humans changing from hunter-gather societies to agricultural-urban societies.
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huh... never heard that one before
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All I know about the bible is that the Garden of Eden and Caine and Able parts are actually allegories for humans changing from hunter-gather societies to agricultural-urban societies.


Depends on if you're veiwing it from an alagorical standpoint, or a creationist standpoint. Some would say what you said is a blatant lie, others would agree wholeheartedly.

The book Doug is talking about is Numbers. It's a book of hte bible that, just like it's name, involves a lot of numbers. It was basically a log of the Isrealites, and has a lot about population and who begat who. Not much wisdom can be taken from it.



As for the "Take that Maya Angelou!" above, I agree entirely. I did the exact same thing: stopped reading books in 10th grade, continued to get the same grades.
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